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Mattflaschen-WMF (चर्चायोगदान)

Flow does have different performance from wikitext talk pages. Some of this we may be able to improve. E.g. we improved phab:T114550 (more could perhaps be done). There is some future related work planned too, such as phab:T94029 .

However, the fact that Flow uses JavaScript normally (there is a no-JavaScript mode available) means that it's doing more work (e.g. the dynamic table of contents, etc.), which requires a bit of setup time; this also probably could be optimized, though.

I don't have the statistic you requested (page size). This is not the only factor, though (and maybe not the most important one, but it depends on your connection speed). Others are server processing time and JavaScript processing time.

The first time you load the Flow editor, it will take a couple seconds to load VisualEditor (you can also use wikitext). However, this should only happen when your browser first caches it, not every time.

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

First of all, I'm happy to confirm that I received a notification for your above post :)

I did a quick study (perhaps not very accurate) just to get an idea. I tried to compare the amount of data transfer that would be required to post a reply on the Konkani Wikipedia's new Flow community discussion page, and the archived wikitext page.

Following are the sizes of the pages (excluding images):

Wikitext page: 765KB

Editing section of wikitext page: 1.00MB

Flow page (just loaded): 1.30MB

Flow page with Visual Editor loaded: 1.64MB

Therefore,

the data transfer for Wikitext = Wikitext page +editing section page +Wikitext page

= 765 + 1000 + 765 = 2530KB

the data transfer for Flow = Flow page with Visual Editor loaded

=1640KB

Here I have not taken into account the script communication, queries, etc., assuming them to be negligible compared to the page sizes.

If my analysis is approximately correct, then although Flow pages themselves are heavier, using Flow actually reduces the data transfer needed if you're going to post something. What do you think?

Mattflaschen-WMF (चर्चायोगदान)

That's interesting. I haven't confirmed these measurements, but Flow does have certain performance advantages:

  1. You only have to load the page once, not once in view mode and once in edit mode.
  2. You don't have to reload the whole page on post (except when the board is first created, which is very rare).
  3. As you know, it has infinite scroll so you don't need to worry about large boards.
The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

Hey I didn't get a notification for your reply

The Discoverer (चर्चायोगदान)

You were right, the notification got auto-read when I visited the talkpage

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